Thursday, August 16, 2018

If Catholics had any moral values they would have thrown out the Catholic Church child abuse organization a long time ago.

If Catholic morons want to fix the out-of-control child abuse problem then they should stop being Catholics. I suggest reality, aka atheism.

Growing up and facing facts is not difficult, Catholic scum. All you got to do is admit you have wasted your entire pathetic life believing in bullshit.

Your Magic Jeebus Man is dead. Your "assumption of Mary into heaven" is ridiculous, not to mention impossible. Is there any bullshit you fucktards don't believe?

Your magical 2nd life fantasy is impossible. Catholicism is not the one true religion because all religions are bullshit.

Of course you will never grow up because reality makes you cry. You would rather pay the Church's legal bills the rest of your life. I never met a Catholic who wasn't a stupid fucking asshole.

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A comment I wrote at the New York Times:

If Catholics really wanted to fix the child abuse problem they would stop being Catholics.

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Somebody else wrote this comment:

Try becoming an atheist. As Bill Maher observed, it requires very little of your time. You can do good things for others because it’s the right thing to do as opposed to doing good things because you were ordered to by some deity. Plus, you get to take the credit for your own accomplishments.

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New York Times - With Revulsion, Resignation and Hope, Catholics Take Stock.

‘It’s Really Hard to Be a Catholic’: The Pain of Reading the Sex Abuse Report.

By Campbell Robertson and Sharon Otterman

August 15, 2018

PITTSBURGH — John Cabon stood quietly and crossed himself before a statue of the Virgin Mary outside St. Paul’s, the mother church of the Pittsburgh Diocese.

“I keep the faith” said Mr. Cabon, 64, on the way to noon Mass. His sister, he said, had left the faith when explosive revelations of sexual abuse rocked the Roman Catholic Church in 2002. He had refused. “You don’t really believe everything, you know.”

But inside the church, there was no escaping the abuse scandal, which has entered a new chapter after monstrous revelations were released in a grand jury report on Tuesday, describing the abuse of more than 1,000 young people at the hands of hundreds of priests in Pennsylvania.

The priest at St Paul’s spoke of “horrendous and evil acts,” “moral failure” by church leaders, and the “grief, sadness, feelings of betrayal, even anger” that followed. One woman wept silently in her pew.

In Pittsburgh — site of some of the most ghastly acts in the report — and in dioceses around the country, Catholics grappled with the report’s findings.

Some had stayed with the church after explosive revelations of priest abuse over a decade ago, which implicated leaders but prompted promises by the church hierarchy of atonement. And now came descriptions of priests engaged in rape and child pornography for decades, using “whips, violence and sadism,” and in one case joining together in a secret cabal of abusers. Even more painful, the report contained accounts of bishops who had actively defended the accused priests.

“I think right now it’s really hard to be a Catholic,” said John Gehring, the Catholic program director of Faith in Public Life, a national network of faith leaders. “Everywhere you look, things seem to be falling apart.”

[Listen to an episode of “The Daily” about how the report sheds light on the systemic nature of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.]

The fallout is not limited to Pennsylvania.

In Nebraska’s Diocese of Lincoln, the bishop has apologized in recent days for his handling of misconduct allegations against priests, including one he told “not to be alone with females” and another who he said had an “emotionally inappropriate, non-sexual relationship with a 19-year-old male.”

A Catholic school in Baltimore will no longer be named for William H. Keeler, the cardinal who died last year and was once seen as a champion for sexual abuse victims but who was singled out in the grand jury report for failing to take action on more than one priest accused of abuse.

On Wednesday, Cardinal Seán O’Malley, archbishop of Boston and chairman of the Vatican’s Commission for the Protection of Minors, announced that he will not be attending the World Meeting of Families in Dublin this month, a major event the pope will attend.

In a statement, Cardinal O’Malley said that he must remain in Boston to handle issues at St. John’s seminary in Brighton, Mass. Last week, he placed the rector on leave and launched an investigation into the seminary’s culture following allegations of sexual misconduct at the school.

Wednesday was also the day that Catholics celebrated the assumption of Mary into heaven. The dissonance was not lost on people.

“Here we are, on the Feast of the Assumption, and Jesus is looking at his mother and saying, ‘Look what they have done to my church,’” said Jessica Bede, a parishioner of Our Lady of Peace Church in Manhattan, which was shuttered in a round of church closings. “They have chewed it up.”

Along with others interviewed on Wednesday, Ms. Bede said she believed the church leadership had not been living up to its people. Several said that if church leaders had trusted in the unshakable faith of the parishioners, they would not have engaged in such extraordinary cover-ups. But the leaders had fallen short, again.

In Boston, Barbara Bowe, a nurse who had grown up in Catholic schools, said she had fallen away from the church. And with the latest round of revelations, she seemed unlikely to return anytime soon.

“As far as priests and nuns being believed, that’s gone,” she said. “The authority is gone.”

A few blocks away from the white cross towering above the pastoral center of the Archdiocese of Miami, Mirta Criswell, 77, was loading dollar-store provisions into the back of a sedan. Of the report, she said, “I believe it 100 percent.”

Ms. Criswell said the sex abuse scandal that began in Boston in 2002 had been painful enough, but the latest reports had left her ever more exasperated. While the scandals would not erode her commitment to the faith, she believed they showed that some of the church rules needed to be revisited.

“The Catholic Church has to change,” Ms. Criswell said. “They have to let their priests marry, to have a family. Humans need sex.”

But others said the report was just more evidence of the frailty of humans, and that it would not shake their faith.

“There’s a lot of bad apples, and they’ve got to be cleaned out,” said Robert Romano, 62, after praying at Holy Innocents Church on West 37th Street in Midtown Manhattan. But, he added, “I’m not coming to church for a priest. I’m coming because in my heart, there’s something else.”

A few Catholics even saw the revelations, as horrific as they were, as cause for hope.

“This is a very good and healthy thing,” said David Williams, leaving noon Mass at St. Paul’s in Pittsburgh. The report was indeed terrible, he said, and he assumed more was to come.

It was painful on a personal level: One of his 15 children is a priest, and one of his grandchildren is in seminary in Rome. But at 88 years old, Mr. Williams said he has seen plenty of bad in his time, and he was fully optimistic that the church would be healed. “You can’t atone without facing the fact that you have sinned,” he said.

The pain among Catholics was nationwide, but there was a special anguish in Pittsburgh, where many knew one or more of the 99 priests from the diocese listed in the report.

“To flip through the pages and have a name leap out at me like that, you know, my childhood priest,” said Brett Sullivan Santry, 44. He grew up as an altar server, later lapsing in his faith while going through a divorce. More recently, drawn by Pope Francis and inspired by his daughter’s education in Catholic schools, he felt as if he might be turning back to the church. And then, on Tuesday, he read the report.

“Painfully, to realize almost a sense of relief that it hadn’t been an altar server that he’d abused,” he said of his childhood priest, the Rev. George Koychick, who was described in the report as having molested multiple underage girls.

Mr. Santry was not sure what this would all mean for his faith, or for his daughter’s. He still identified as Catholic and saw all the genuine good the church had done for them.

“For that I’m thankful,” he said. “But now someday I’m going to have to explain to her, you know —” he paused to think of the right word — “this.We may have a conversation at some point in the future about this. What the hell do I say?”

Campbell Robertson reported from Pittsburgh and Sharon Otterman from New York. Reporting was contributed by Elizabeth Dias in Pittsburgh, Jess Bidgood in Miami, Katharine Q. Seelye in Boston, and Mitch Smith in Kansas City, Kan.

A version of this article appears in print on Aug. 16, 2018, on Page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: With Revulsion, Resignation and Hope, Catholics Take Stock.

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