Friday, February 8, 2019

Somebody with the internet name "Lord Bearclaw of Gryphon Woods" explains the problem with Christian theocratic assholes in Idiot America.

Biology teachers teach the science of evolution. Should they be forced to give equal time to the religious belief in creationism?

This is just another step on the slippery slope to eliminating Separation of Church and State and establishing Christianity as a State Religion. What starts off as "elective" and "optional" will eventually become "required" and "mandatory". The Religious Right has wanted to recast the U.S. as a theocratic regime pretty much since the country was founded. It's how we ended up with the words "In God We Trust" on our currency, and the words "Under God" added to the Pledge. Both of which are violations of the First Amendment / Establishment Clause. This is the road that leads to "The Handmaid's Tale" in the long run.

The long game here is indoctrination of students into the Christian faith, which will produce a generation of future lawmakers and voters willing to sponsor bills and vote for them that abridge the religious Freedom of all other faiths, just the same way a WV lawmaker recently sponsored a Bill to make "The Bible" the State Book. Religion belongs at home and the church - not in schools. School-led morning prayer was taken out of public schools because it violates the FA/EC and Freedom of Religion. Students have the freedom to pray anytime they like, as long as they are not disrupting class or trying to make other students pray with them.

When people say that "We need to put God back in school" or "Prayer back in school" what they are saying is that they want Christianity to be given that right and no other religion. If you extend that right to ONE religion, then you must extend it to ALL religions. So, let's have literacy classes on the Bible, the Koran, the Quran, the Elder Eddas, the Satanic Bible, and the so-called "holy books" of every other religion. Let's fill the school day with prayers, devotionals, and services for them all, because we OBVIOUSLY don't need to spend ANY time teaching Science, Math, History, Health, English, Art, or anything else.

-- Lord Bearclaw of Gryphon Woods

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What someone else wrote about abiogeneses. Very interesting. (internet name "sky"):

Biology teachers teach the science of evolution. Should they be forced to give equal time to the religious belief in creationism?

No. Teachers of the sciences should only teach science, meaning the facts and theories that withstand the scientific process such as peer review. Religious beliefs and creationism are nothing more than mythology which have no foundation in science whatsoever and no evidence whatsoever that support them. If creationism actually had more evidence to support it then the scientific community would have accepted it long ago and dismissed evolution.


However, there is an absolute mountain of evidence supporting evolution so that as theories go it is even more well supported than the theory of gravity, and research into abiogenesis has found how easily the building blocks of life--amino acids, proteins, nucleotides, etc.--were brought to the planet on comets and asteroids or synthesized through the chemistry processes of the early Earth. That includes making self-replicating molecules in laboratory conditions and discovering how early cells formed with membranes of bipolar lipids that are attracted to water on one side and repel water on the other side so they all come together to form a bubble membrane.

Evolution is incredibly well established and supported science. Creationism is, at best, a hypothesis which has no evidence and cannot be tested or investigated. If biology teachers should be forced to teach creationism then medical school should be forced to teach the story of the stork in their classes on reproduction and embryology.

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Somebody else wrote this stuff (internet name "Lighting the Way to Reality"):

Evolution has all of the evidence.

Creationism has nothing but myth-based nonsense and the misrepresentations, deceptions, omission of facts, and outright falsehoods by its promoters in their websites and books.

It would not be suitable to teach students that crap!

Several of the creationist responders to your question have posted their usual nonsense showing they don't know squat about evolution nor of the evidence for it.

In rebuttal to their nonsense that evolution is just speculation and has no evidence in support of it, let's take a look at what CREATIONIST Todd C. Wood, a Research/Associate Professor of Science at the Christian-based Bryon College, says about the evidence for evolution.

"Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well.

"I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.)

"Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory."

But, of course, since he is a creationist, he then goes on to say:

"That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. It is my own faith choice to reject evolution, because I believe the Bible reveals true information about the history of the earth that is fundamentally incompatible with evolution."
Todd’s Blog: the truth about evolution

So there you have it. The Bible is the word of god, period, and the facts be damned. And that is the attitude of creationists regardless of whether they know anything about the evidence for evolution or not.

At least Professor Wood is honest in saying that his rejection of evolution is a matter of faith rather than resorting to lies and deceit in an attempt to disprove it, as the promoters of creationism do in their despicable websites and books.

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